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T3/T4: Cases from My Practice
The table below tracks cases in my practice (some features have been changed to protect patient identity); last update Oct 17, 2001. [Update Jan 2004: I'll update the table soon. In general most of those improved are still dramatically improved, including the one who put me on to all this -- she's going to graduate school now were before she couldn't hold a job. However, one of my patients clearly did worse on T3/T4 than on T4 alone, and after that experience, I really backed off on this approach and haven't bothered updating the table.
That's because with that one case it became clear to me that T3/T4 thyroid, used instead of T4 alone, can be harmful. And one of the reasons I'd been exploring this approach so actively was that in theory it seemed very unlikely to be harmful (if TSH was kept in the normal range), and that therefore we didn't need as much evidence to consider using this approach, because even if it didn't work, it wasn't likely to be harmful -- or so I thought.
However, the experience of the woman above who's now in graduate school suggests that there may be some people for whom this combined approach can be very helpful (hard to be too certain on the basis of that one patient, and a few more who are listed below). One of these days I'll get around to writing her up as a case report.]
Here then are the cases I collected back in 2001. Asterisks mark cases with profound improvements akin to those seen with recognized mood stabilizers.
- Improved or much improved: 17/25 (68%)
Note below how many of these people had a "normal" TSH prior to this treatment.- Worse: 5/21 (20%)
These were my patients with most treatment resistant illness, early in my experience with T4/T3. Note prevalence of diagnosis or possible diagnosis of "personality disorder" amongst those who worsened. Note also that some were clearly started too high, in retrospect, most (but not all, interestingly) with TSH <0.5. Finally, note that none have sustained worsening; all returned to prior baseline after thyroid was discontinued.- No Change: 3/25 (12%)
- For Prescribers: clear improvement in mood stability with T3/T4, who did not improve on T4 alone: 10/13 ( 77%)
These patients are marked with a bold case number. Their experience supports the hypothesis that T3/T4 has substantially more mood stabilizing effects (like lithium and Depakote) than T4 alone.
TABLE: Details by case: improved, worsened, no change, pending
Improved
| Pt.# | Age | F/M |
Symptoms |
TSH before rx (no lithium) |
Prior T4 dose |
Doses T4 / T3 used |
Result | - effects | TSH on T3/T4 | start date |
| 1* |
30s | F | Years of severe mood instability; BPI, borderline features. Could not tolerate any antidepressant without cycling |
3.4 | 100 | 150/37.5 | Mood stable for first time in years, though depressed; tolerating antidepressant now | None | 0.023
(caveat) |
4/01 |
| 2* | 50s | F | Bipolar II, borderline features | Not available (antithyroid+) |
150 | 150/12.5 | Profound improvement, back to work | None | 2.06 | 7/01 |
| 3* | 30s | F | Years of severe mood instability; clear bipolar II |
1.32 | 100 | 50/12.5 | Much improved, as good as conventional mood stabilizers (better?) | None | 0.06
(caveat) |
5/01 |
| 4* | 50s | F | PTSD, BPII mixed | 8.9 at one time | 200 | 50/12.5 | Much improved, back to work | None | 0.2 (caveat) |
f/u via PCP |
| 5* | 40s | F | Severe BPII; called "borderline" by others | 2.9 | 50 for mood stabilizer adjunct, no effect | 50/12.5 | Profound improvement, back to work, only two other mood stabilizers (was 4) | Agitated on 75/18, TSH .03 | 0.5 on 50/12.5 | 6/01 |
| 6* | 40s | F | Bipolar II, mixed, severe | 3.2 on lithium | 100 | 100/12.5; decreasing to 75/18 | Clearly better, nearly symptom free despite severe stressors | None, despite TSH 0.1 on 100/25 | Pending on lower dose | 8/01 |
| 7 | 50s | F | PTSD/probable BPII | Prior rx for hypothyroid | 175 | 125/37 too much; 100/25 too much; now 75/18 |
Much improved | Agitation on 100/25, TSH 0.03 | 1.49 on 75/18 | 6/01 |
| 8 | 50s | F | Bipolar II with borderline features |
Not available | 50- 100 |
Armour 1gr. | Moderately improved | None | 1.12, adherence uncertain | 7/01 |
| 9 | 60 | F | BPII mixed, severe | 3.09 | 100 for mood stabilizer adjunct, no effect | 50/12.5 | Finally stable after years of many rx's | None | 0.7 | 8/01 |
| 10. | <20 | F | Bipolar with catatonia (on Paxil and T4) | 6.2 | 100, no better after 1.5 mos; paxil added | 50/12.5 | "Back to normal" after stopping Paxil, switching to T4/T3 | none | f/u via PCP | 8/01 |
| 11* | 30s | M | Intermittent explosive disorder vs. BPII mixed | Not available | None | 75/18, decreasing to 50/12.5 | Profound response, clearly as good as Trileptal; on only T4/T3 now | Agitation on 100/25 | .03 on 75/18, pending on 50/12.5 | 5/01 |
| 12* | 40s | M | Longstanding BPI | 1.8 on Lithium for >10 years; thyroid started when TSH rose to 3.6 | None | 50/10 | Profound response, from depressed/SI to full recovery (would it have occurred with T4 though?) | None | 0.65 | 8/01 |
| 13*. | 40s | M | BPII with mild rapid cycling | 0.97 | None | Armour 1/2 grain, decreasing to 3/4 pill | Clearly improved, able to stop lamotrigine which was inducing cyling | Subtle agitation, sweating with TSH of 0.41 | 0.41 on 1/2 gr. | 9/01 |
| Pt.# | Age | F/M |
Symptoms |
TSH before rx (no lithium) |
Prior T4 dose |
Doses T4 / T3 used |
Result | - effects | TSH on T3/T4 | start date |
| 14 | 50s | F | BPII vs. GAD | Not available | None | 75/18 | Clearly improved, still symptomatic | No side effects on 100/25 but TSH 0.03 | Pending | 7/01 |
| 15 | 40s | F | PTSD/Bipolar II; some borderline features | 2.7 | None | 75/18, decreasing to 50/12.5 | Probable moderate improvement | "Wired" on 75/18 with TSH 0.2 | Pending on lower dose | 7/01 |
| 16 | 40s | F | mild BPII, some dependent features | 2.2 | None | 12.5/3.1 | Much improved: more assertive, confident | "Rigid" on 50/12.5 | 0.9 | 8/01 |
| 17 | 40s | F | Moderate BPII with rapid cycling and ADD features | 1.65 | None | 50/12.5 | Clearly improved, an emerging depression aborted, calmer | None | Pending | 9/01 |
No Change
| Pt.# | Age | F/M |
Symptoms |
TSH before rx (no lithium) |
Prior T4 dose |
Doses T4 / T3 used |
Result | - effects | TSH on T3/T4 | start date |
| 18 | 50s | F | Severe BPII, can't tolerate antidepressant w/o cycling | Not available | 125 | 100/25; increase to 125/28.6 | Tolerating no antidepressant w/o cycling? otherwise no better, next step pending | None | 2.0 on 100/25, follow-up pending | 4/01 |
| 19 | 20s | M | BPII with rapid cycling | 0.62 | None | 50/12.5 | No change, still depressed and anxious | None | Cancelled | 1 month of rx |
| 20 | 50s | F | BPII with rapid cycling | 2.52 | None | 25/7.25 | A little better? equivocal | None | Pending | 10/01 |
Worse
| Pt.# | Age | F/M |
Symptoms |
TSH before rx (no lithium) |
Prior T4 dose |
Doses T4 / T3 used |
Result | - effects | TSH on T3/T4 | start date |
| 21 | 40s | F | Severe PTSD, "borderline", ? BPAD |
1.82 | 100 as adjunct | 100/25 | Worse | Severe agitation, decreased sleep | 0.03 | 1 mo. of rx |
| 22 | 40s | F | BPI, has been called borderline | 1.64 | None | 50/12.5 | Worse | Probable increased panic and tremor | .06 | 1 mo. of rx |
| 23 | 40s | M | PTSD, ?BPII, many would call borderline | Developed thyroid cancer while under treatment | None | 50/10; decreased to 50/5, then stopped | Worse | Increased agitation, "rage" | 0.8 | 1 mo. of rx |
| 24 | 40s | F |
BPII? resistant to all but |
3.60 with free T4 0.7 | 100 as adjunct | 75/18.75, decreased to 50/12.5 | Worse | Severe restless legs even after dose decrease | 1.68 with restless legs |
1 mo. of rx |
| 25 | 30s | F | BPII, mixed, severe with borderline features | 1.92 | None | 50/12.5 | Worse | Agitated, decreased sleep, severe | 0.15 | 1.5 mos. of rx |
Pending or uncertain (will move to improved,
worse, or no change if course clarifies response)
| Pt.# | Age | F/M |
Symptoms |
TSH before rx (no lithium) |
Prior T4 dose |
Doses T4 / T3 used |
Result | - effects | TSH on T3/T4 | start date |
| P1 | 40s | F | Years of mild mood instability; BP II |
Not available | None | Armour 1.5 gr | Pending | Agitation, decreased concentration on 1.5 gr | Pending | 9/01 |
| P2 | 30s | F | severe BPI | Not available | None | 50/12.5, decreased to 37.5/9.3 | Possible improvement in mood overall? | Increased psychotic symptoms at 50/12.5 | 0.03 on 50/12.5 | 8/01 |
| P3 | 50s | F | Longstanding BPII | 25/7.5 | 9/01 | |||||
| P4 | 40s | F | Severe PTSD, possible underlying Bipolar variant | 10/01 |